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UGHhh traditional

Wed May 27, 2009, 10:13 PM
Ok.  I wanna learn to paint well traditionally.  Preferably acrylics, since oils are a fuckin mess and I've never liked them.  I'm not horrible with paint, but I only do a painting like once every 2 years and is hardly up to my standards.  any PRO TIPS??!?!?!
I feel like being a digital painter I won't really get me the opportunity to become a snobby "fine artist" and just sit around doing whatever the fuck I want and throw it in a gallery and get fuckloads of money.  Cause it's just that easy right? yeah.  Must be.

...but you know what I mean.  I'm not really digging commercial work as much anymore...just thinking ahead :

Also.  How much do paintballs hurt?

  • Mood: Fear
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:iconindiandy08:
I know what you mean, Digital art just has not got the buck pullin power as fine art, I have just been looking at a thing about Hockley going digital. When the big guns use digital it will open doors.

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Something I have always wanted to do is set up big canvases in the garden and fire paint balls at them.

I did something similar with balloons filled with paint and an air rifle.
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:icongodsaidshutup:
Call me an ass but I think digital is the cop out. It gets a lot more money because of its "smooth, flawless" look. Traditional art is hard to sell. I paint and do all my work (even fan art) traditionally and people don't like it because of my sometimes wobbly lines (I have hands hard to keep steady) or the smudge here and there that seems "wrong."
They say it looks sloppily done, even though I've spent tedious hours or days on something.

I prefer traditional and now digital is the huge thing.
I don't even get digital. I can't do it, and I don't really intend to until I can take classes on how to do it.

Rant aside:
Oils are fantastic if you just want to glob it on and make gorgeous textures.
Acrylics are nice for that smooth finish. The trick with acrylics is getting GOOD PAINT. I personally love Liquitex. It's smooth and nice. As has been said, with acrylic or oil you can wipe it off or paint over. Watercolors are hard to work with but can give nice results.

If you're practicing with water colors buy a pack just to play with. Try with too much water and make a wash. Try with little water. Play around with it for a while. :]

Also, try ink washes! That stuff is fun.
Take India Ink and add water or take away. You can actually do the same with coffee for nice sepia tones. :]

I paint from time to time but still get very frustrated with it. I prefer my markers and colored pencils, but painting is nice if you want to do something on a huge scale. Your most important tool with traditional painting is patience. You can't just click undo. Everything is final, so you have to be a lot more careful than when you're dabbling in photoshop.

Also: LET THE PAINT DRY. I had to learn this the hard way. When you make a mistake put a fan on that stuff or a hair blow dryer to ease the process. So many times I've ruined something perfect while trying to fix another because the paint wasn't dry when I went to fix my mistake. Bleeeh!

That being said: Love your work, can't wait to see more traditional stuff from you. :]
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:iconrousselet:
Hello there, Jeff Simpson!
I know it's been a while since you made this post, but I figure you may still be on the fence about traditional media...
I highly, highly recommend you check out the new line of acrylics from Golden. They are called "Open", and this is because they stay wet for a super long time (thus, your painting time is more "open"). To give you a bit of an idea, working with traditional acrylic will give you about 45 minutes of open working time for moderate layers of paint; Opens give you 4 times as much, maybe more. They can also be combined with your regular acrylics, but take care as the more you intermix them the more like your regular acrylics they will become (i.e. they will dry faster).
Going from digital to traditional is a rough transition, but I think the huge number of mediums available with acrylic will help compensate for the lack of digital textures, filters, etc. Mediums can do anything from add gloss or thickness to incorporate glass beads, pumice, or give a crackle effect when dry. Since the vehicle in acrylic paint (the part of the paint that isn't pigment) is basically an inert glue (an acrylic polymer emulsion), you should totally experiment with mixing in your own objects or textures. Photo transfers, skins, and digital grounds (mediums that allow you to print on different papers and even non porous surfaces like foil) might also interest you. Also, much like digital art, the best part of acrylic painting is the *layers*. Build those fuckers UP!
My advice? Go to your art supply store (a real one, not a Hobby Lobby) and talk to the people that work there. They'll put your hands on good things. If you're interested in a book, the two best I've found are "The New Acrylics" (Tauchid) and "Rethinking Acrylic" (Brady).
Please e-mail me (samanthadeitz *at* msn *dot* com)if you would like to ask anything else! I work at an art supply store and teach acrylic painting...and as you can see I get super pumped about it!
Best wishes!
~Sam
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~robrey Jun 4, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
Most importantly, there's got to be no "UGHhh" involved... and I recommend oil if you want to get any good edges in your paintings :)
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:iconomo-sanza-grata:
I'm not a painter, yet, but I say do it. I think there's is endless, peaceful, natural quality you have by exploring real brush strokes.
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~Jointless Jun 1, 2009  Student General Artist
pick some small botles/jars to blend in. that way you will have the colour of your choice through out the piece you are working at. Since arcylics dry up fast it might be a good thing to have that jar to blend from again. Usually it's a midtone or just a dominant colour. many work with several jars/boxes/botles, so that you can lock them and let the picture dry, then come back another day, and you wont have to blend the same colours as last time for your palet again.
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:iconflearehuce:
I've painted with acrylics in almost all of my traditional paintings, they dry SUPER FAST, in-case you didn't already know. I found a fun technique where you draw out/ sketch out your painting with charcoal and fill in all the dark spots with the charcoal, then use an acrylic glaze (for a seal), let it dry and then paint over it, really lays a nice base for the values of the painting. other then that the colors are nice to play with. nothing that's as permanent as oil since it dries so fast, so what i did was just do some cute illustrations and just have fun goofing around with different colors! good luck

hope that helps! looking forward to what you have to produce
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~Kimmiko Jun 1, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Tips? hmm.. I've heard you can make it look old by pouring coffee over it :> gives it a nice sepia touch..
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:iconc-d:
mmm
I've been feeling the same way
though I do still very much enjoy commercial I would like to put a few pics up in a gallery. mixed media I enjoy but man can traditional ever be a kick in the pants
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:iconfportugal:
Hey, your art cought my eye on the first place because I saw some resemblance with my B&W watercolour. So maybe you could try watercolours too, I think you would be fine ;)

paintballs?! heher
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